Note that the conversation about it came in the context of what this week's fresh film Karissa "the Chronicles Melania" won several awards at the most prestigious Latvian film competition "the Great Kristaps". He was also nominated for the American "Oscar" in the category "Best foreign language film," although the Director himself assesses his chances in Hollywood are very skeptical.

This film shows the history of the deportation of Latvians to Siberia in June 1941, telling the story of real women Melania Vanaga and her son. This, as well as the recent call of the Director to open the so-called "bags Cheka" became an occasion for questions of Janis Domburs.

About why "the Chronicles of Melania" will not be able to repeat the success of "IDA" Paul Pawlikowska (the film won the "Oscar" in 2015"), which also reveals the tragedy of the people, but other Jewish.

Well, let's not compare tragedies. But open Netflix and see what movies says about Nazism and how about Stalinism. The ratio will be about one hundred to one. This is connected with "syndrome of the winner." Who won the Second World war? The Soviet Union, along with Britain and the United States. They were all winners [which the judge is not accepted].

Other worthy films about Stalinism.

We had such a phenomenon that recently almost every year out of some Baltic film on the subject. But if to take, for example, the Lithuanian film "the Tourist" (2013), it seems to me that there is a script in the Kremlin claimed. There are good security officer, there in the end turned out that the Lithuanians of his and gave that absolutely Kremlin ideology. They say, well, Yes, there was some kind of Stalin, but in fact they themselves to each other betrayed. And not showing the context of that WEIGHED on them that they had passed one another.

— And what pressed?

— Of course, mode, occupation mode.

— But if you continue to do historical films on the subject, then one day can come to the same conclusion: that Latvians betrayed that Latvians were against the Latvians and nobody is pounding, and people were just looking for a better life.

— You said it.

— I asked if so?

— Including. But those who betrayed, not looking for reasons... to influence them, the overwhelming, distorting the moral mode. Without this mode, if people understand that you can build a career honestly, they would not have occurred to you to bring. It is the job of the system. You have to understand that the system is crippled.* * * 2.*

That Viesturs Kairiss may argue the main arguments against the disclosure of "bags of KGB in Latvia remained card of only a few thousand people's personal Affairs in the country, something surely was erased. That is full of clarity and completeness.

Then let's continue to stagnate — the only way I can translate these arguments. In my yesterday's speech was one of the fundamental invitation is not only to open the bags, but also society towards people who potentially there is.

— What does it mean? "Repent, we will forgive"?

— Not so easy, but from this region. We are not the ones who can judge. Us not in those bags, we were too young. And we can't say that we wouldn't be there. I hope that if we were there, they would themselves not know about it.

I believe that society it is important to unite and to take a step forward. This is not a witch hunt. And now we're not moving forward. (..) As a result [of the Cheka bags] myths are born one of the other beautiful, where do they come from!

What "truth" Viesturs Kairiss wants to find "bags Cheka". Even the professional researchers of the topic, historians, there is no consensus about what disclosure bags allow you to install some kind of historical truth.

Let the people tell what happened to them that they had to do. Let each [of those in the bags] tell your story... They will be better.

— What is the difference? People will talk and you can unburden yourself? And if, God forbid, will suffer at the hands of those who once suffered from the regime? Such arguments also sound.

— Understand, we can move forward! Now I have the feeling that we can't cross some invisible line. For example, after the publication of "Conversations in Cairo" — nothing happened. We can't cross the invisible line!

— There's the link of the publication of conversations of oligarchs and disclosure of bags of KGB?

— Possible. But I would not have speculated on this topic. I'd rather just know for a fact that these bags.

Lustration and how late it be in Latvia or not. And how it relates to bags of the Cheka.

In preparation for shooting the film, I studied a lot the subject of what happened in Nazi Germany after the Second world war. They came to the tragicomedy as a society were forced to be cleansed [of the Nazis and those who cooperated with them]. It is clear that a large part of the population one way or another collaborated. And they cleaned, cleaned, cleaned each other! Often completely technically... But they eventually all turned out! The society had to perform. And it was very effective.

You know, I am very concerned about the fact that, for example, there are bags Cheka, the people at the Eastern border of Latvia aware of their content and use it to implement the best policies for yourself. I was VERY worried.

Also I am concerned about the fact that the contents of bags of KGB knows the local fun guide. And it does... it can do the same. That bothers me is that the ability to manipulate our opinion.

But if it doesn't happen, then I would be happy to be convinced that there is no such. But I have a HUGE suspicion that that's exactly what happens.

— Does this mean that maybe some people who are so manipulated, but in fact they are in "bags of KGB" no, they don't know it?

— We will never know about it. But, most likely, this parallel reality also exists.